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DEA Doesn't Want Pot Legal in Colorado

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Despite bucking the rapidly gaining national trend of law enforcement favoring the end of prohibition for marijuana, a group of DEA agents in Colorado is fighting the november election to legalize small amounts of marijuana in Colorado and is using taxpayer resources to do it.

In the e-mail, which was sent from a U.S. Department of Justice account, Moore also writes that the group has $10,000 to launch the campaign. He asks those interested in helping to call him at his DEA office.

That has members of Safer Colorado, the group supporting the marijuana legalization measure, crying foul. The government has no business spending the public's money on politics, they said.

Steve Fox, the group's executive director, said members of the executive branch, including the DEA, should leave law-making to legislators.

"Taxpayer money should not be going toward the executive branch advocating one side or another," Fox said. "It's a wholly inappropriate use of taxpayer money."

Colorado's initiative is very straightforward in its approach in this election claiming that marijuana should be legalized on the simple premise that it is a far safer recreational drug than alcohol. The residents of Denver overwhelmingly approved an identical bill for the City of Denver in the last election but city and state officials have been resisting the will of the voters citing state law rules.

See: http://www.saferchoice.org
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{"commentId":267171,"authorDomain":"RobieB"}

If $10,000 could sway the election so be it. Seems wrong but there are a lot things to worry about than this one.

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  • 3 votes
Reply#1 - Sun Aug 27, 2006 4:33 PM EDT
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{"commentId":267287,"authorDomain":"PamelaDrew"}

The whole prohibition had its roots in preventing the competition from the hemp plants in the synthetic rope market. It's actually laughable that a nation with Rx drug use advertised on television to the tune of $80 billion just for the adverts can still make a case against weed.

Aside from that it is interesting to note the industrial hemp is now legal and making a comeback. It's hearty, weedy growth and ability to thrive without pesticides, fertilizers or much water is making it a great new cash crop. What would happen if the Rx business turned to homegrown weeds as well?r

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  • 8 votes
Reply#3 - Sun Aug 27, 2006 7:00 PM EDT
{"commentId":267500,"authorDomain":"sheep"}

Pamela, I generally tend to agree with many of your positions, but you do no favors for your arguments -- and the positions they represent -- by playing fast and loose with the data and not sourcing your numbers. Where did the $80 billion on drug company television advertising come from? The entire advertising expenditures in the US in all media amounted to US$143 billion in 2005, with television (network, cable, spot, and syndication) adding up to a little over US$55 billion. Not only that, but no prescription drug company appears in the top 10 advertisers, nor does prescription drug advertising as a category make it into the top 10 list. If someone like me who agrees with your ideas can't trust your writing, how do you ever expect to get those folks on the fence to come over to our side?

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  • 5 votes
#3.1 - Mon Aug 28, 2006 12:52 AM EDT
{"commentId":267739,"authorDomain":"walketim"}

When the hemp tax bill was passed in 1937, race played a very important role. This to the extent that I personally feel that, if you favor prohibition you are either ignorant of the facts or racist and that there is very little middle ground.

FROM: "William Randolph Hearst for 10 years claiming that "marijuana-crazed negroes' were raping white women"

FROM: "Marihuana influences Negroes to look at white people in the eye, step on white men's shadows and look at a white woman twice."

and

"There are 100,000 total marijuana smokers in the US, and most are Negroes, Hispanics, Filipinos, and entertainers. Their Satanic music, jazz, and swing, result from marijuana use. This marijuana causes white women to seek sexual relations with Negroes, entertainers, and any others."

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  • 7 votes
#3.2 - Mon Aug 28, 2006 10:16 AM EDT
{"commentId":268628,"authorDomain":"PamelaDrew"}
Pamela...with Rx drug use advertised on television to the tune of $80 billion just for the adverts
evano..Pamela, I generally tend to agree with many of your positions, but you do no favors for your arguments -- and the positions they represent -- by playing fast and loose with the data and not sourcing your numbers. Where did the $80 billion on drug company television advertising come from?The entire advertising expenditures in the US in all media amounted to US$143 billion in 2005, with television (network, cable, spot, and syndication) adding up to a little over US$55 billion.

evano you are right and I meant to do 8 not 80 but even that was wrong. I do let my fiery Irish temper get my fingers clicking faster than my grey matter more times than I should. It's something I work on but it does still happen and the best thing I can say for that is I have gotten practice at saying I was wrong. I'll keep trying and you keep me honest, thanks!.

The Food and Drug Administration will hold a public hearing on direct-to-consumer (DTC) drug advertising, "more than two years after the last public hearing ... failed to produce any guidelines to regulate the $4 billion ad category," notes AdAge. In announcing the November 1 and 2 2005 meeting in Washington, DC, the FDA said it "believes the agency, the industry and other members of the public now have enough experience with DTC promotion to understand what regulatory issues may need to be addressed."
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#3.3 - Mon Aug 28, 2006 8:55 PM EDT
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{"commentId":267303,"authorDomain":"jyuma"}

from the article:

"the DEA isn't trying to "protect Coloradans from themselves" but that the agency is the expert when it comes to drugs.

"The American taxpayer does have a right to have the people they've paid to become experts in this business tell them what this is going to do," he said. "They should benefit from this expertise."

Bulllll@!$%#!

The DEA is not an "expert" when it comes to drugs. The DEA enforces drug laws...and they don't even do that very well.

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  • 8 votes
Reply#4 - Sun Aug 27, 2006 7:25 PM EDT
{"commentId":267437,"authorDomain":"daksya"}

"Expert" in quotes is right.

The 1973 report by the Nixon-appointed commission on drugs is prescient:

"Because of the intensity of the public concern and the emotionalism surrounding the topic of drugs, all levels of government have been pressured into action with little time for planning. The political pressures involved in this governmental effort have resulted in a concentration of public energy on the most immediate aspects of drug use and a reaction along the paths of least political resistance. The recent result has been the creation of ever larger bureaucracies, ever increasing expenditures of monies, and an outpouring of publicity so that the public will know that "something" is being done.

Perhaps the major consequence of this ad hoc policy planning hag been the creation, at the federal, state and community levels, of a vested interest in the perpetuation of the problem among those dispensing and receiving funds. Infrastructures are created, job descriptions are standardized, "experts" are created and ways of doing business routinized and established along bureaucratic channels. During the last several years, drug programming has become a multi-billion dollar industry, one administering to its own needs as well as to those of its drug-using clientele. In the course of well-meaning efforts to do something about drug use, this society may have inadvertently institutionalized it as a never-ending project."

That's what this is about: keeping this gravy train running.

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  • 6 votes
#4.1 - Sun Aug 27, 2006 11:15 PM EDT
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{"commentId":267334,"authorDomain":"Zylphryx"}

The Justice Department should allocate $10k to Safer Colorado as well. Level that playing field.

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  • 5 votes
Reply#5 - Sun Aug 27, 2006 8:27 PM EDT
{"commentId":267502,"authorDomain":"PamelaDrew"}

Here's onehttp://aine.newsvine.com/_news/2006/08/27/340967-massive-coca-spraying-mostly-hurts-legal-farmers"> link from a seed by Aine but there are quite a few out there. I don't know why "related around the vine" things aren't here, but it must be a tag thing. There are mountains of articles in the past weeks all focused on the worthless war on drugs, failures by every measure from GAO reports to money spent for drug education.

This is a waste of time and money. That is unless you're Monsanto, Dow and Dupont selling herbicides to blanket the rainforest and Mideast and selling genetically engineered plants that are the only crops that will grow in the spray. Oops, hit a farm by mistake, buy our seeds and your fields can survive the killing spray. What a racket.

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  • 3 votes
Reply#6 - Mon Aug 28, 2006 12:55 AM EDT
{"commentId":267582,"authorDomain":"turgidboil"}

I suspect that there are several lobby groups on K St. who push to keep weed illegal. I would think alcohol and pharma to be on the top of the list, textiles next.

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  • 4 votes
Reply#7 - Mon Aug 28, 2006 6:48 AM EDT
{"commentId":267839,"authorDomain":"wbrianwhite"}

I've never understood that assumption about alcohol. Alcohol companies already have distribution networks set up. Wouldn't they be able to just roll right into the pot distribution biz if it became legal?

"This Bud's for you. And now, this bud's for you too."

And as much as I liked weed when I smoked it, I don't see how it's a competitor for pharma. What, am I going to stop taking high blood pressure pills because I'm high? Will anti-depressants be irrellevant just because you could be high all day? I don't think so.

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  • 6 votes
#7.1 - Mon Aug 28, 2006 11:55 AM EDT
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{"commentId":267641,"authorDomain":"Brad-Leclerc"}

I think a band of snackfood companies should get together and work to get weed legalized, it would be an investment :P

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  • 6 votes
Reply#8 - Mon Aug 28, 2006 9:07 AM EDT
{"commentId":267756,"authorDomain":"walketim"}

LOL - The cheeto vote

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  • 6 votes
#8.1 - Mon Aug 28, 2006 10:41 AM EDT
{"commentId":267933,"authorDomain":"miasma"}

hahahaha

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  • 2 votes
#8.2 - Mon Aug 28, 2006 12:51 PM EDT
{"commentId":268030,"authorDomain":"hallo"}
Daniel A. HalloDeleted
{"commentId":268151,"authorDomain":"Brad-Leclerc"}

Hmm, war on sanity....I LOVE IT!

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  • 3 votes
#8.4 - Mon Aug 28, 2006 2:59 PM EDT
{"commentId":268361,"authorDomain":"sheep"}

War on Hannity? All right! Where do I sign up?

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  • 4 votes
#8.5 - Mon Aug 28, 2006 5:16 PM EDT
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{"commentId":272590,"authorDomain":"miasma"}
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    Reply#9 - Thu Aug 31, 2006 11:57 AM EDT
    {"commentId":272608,"authorDomain":"daksya"}

    The legalizers incorrectly claimed that the DEA is using taxpayer money to fight politically. What remains true is that the DEA does not want pot legal; that a DEA agent is (privately) encouraging, using a government email account, private groups to raise $10,000 to oppose the ballot initiative.

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    • 1 vote
    #9.1 - Thu Aug 31, 2006 12:10 PM EDT
    {"commentId":272683,"authorDomain":"wbrianwhite"}

    That's still illegal. Look up the Hatch Act. This bites gov't employees in DC all the time. That agent can't use a gov't email account or a government computer to conduct any political activities.

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    #9.2 - Thu Aug 31, 2006 1:04 PM EDT
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